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Poet or Writer?
By Donni-Jay De-Ville
Last edited: Saturday, September 18, 2004
Posted: Saturday, September 18, 2004

There has always been a question in my mind, as to whether a writer of Prose is called a Poet?

 

Now there are definitely Poets.  But, is this opinion of mine, one that the majority has?  I think a Poet, writes so that their work rhymes, in a way that can not be easily heard.  Also, a Poet uses words very descriptively, to allude to what they are writing about.  These 'Poets' fascinate me, as, on reading this type of work, I have a rough idea of what is going on, but no idea of what is meant, by the magnificent words, that certainly depict some kind of visual picture.

I think I admire these 'Poets,' because I can not write like that, (doesn't mean I want to. I would only confuse myself) But, these 'flowery worded' Poets seem to come up with rarely used words, that allude to a feeling, or analogy, that escapes my brain altogether. (in other words, it makes me feel quite thick and uneducated!) Do these people talk to others, in this strange language? Do only true poets talk to other true poets in these unearthly words, in secret?

Sometimes, I must confess that I have to give up on reading a poem that started off my interest. The flow of the syllables have a rhythm but I don't understand Japanese unfortunately. 

I can tell you about something similar.  If these true poets were to read poetry by 'new age people' and some of the old hippies, who have managed to keep their particular era going, it is as hard to make sense of too. They write English words, but the meanings, only mean something to others on the same kind of wavelength, who are, or, have lived their kind of life!

I bet I am confusing you all here!  I know what I mean but, can't find the right words! Now back to the 'true poets,' again.

These 'off the hook' words they use, seem to be intended not to let anyone know, what their poem is actually about.  Do you know what I mean?  I hope someone does!  But, when I read the reviews, the readers are absolutely marvelling at the depth and the metre of the poem and how wonderful it was.  Is the truth that these readers are pretending to know what is going on? After all, no intelligent person will reveal that they have no idea what someone is showing them, if that person seems to know all about it! 

For the 'not knower' to ask what they think is a sensible question and then get a reply that is most certainly in English, but might as well be in Japanese.  All they can do without compounding their newfound ignorance, is just to reply, "oh, yeah," wishing that they could even have a slight  inclination of what it's all about.

Well, I am admitting that most of the poetry I read in here, (which is obviously by real Poets) is way above my head!  Though the words sound wonderful, it seems that they don't have to make sense, or for me to make sense of it either!

Well, now I get to the 'prose' bit. This I can understand.  Sentences, which end roughly with the same sounding syllable, whether every second, or third sentence. But somehow, these writings sound like stories or ideas, and the writer is giving a definite visual idea of what is going on.

I find this 'prose' writing, far easier to read and enjoy. It is more like a writer writing, than a Poet writing. Please somone follow my line of thought here!

Now I analyse this because, though I put my writing of 'prose' under the 'Poetry' section, I feel like a fraud.  I actually call my writings, ramblings! I think thoughts out and just let the words flow, with no basic skill as to how they should be placed to be 'asthetic.' My writing work has always been  like either very basic, or, complex thoughts. All these things come through the type of experiences that are had in the world and with maturity.

(The best stories, poetry, prose, articles and songs are written because the writer 'knows' what they are talking about!)  Has probably lived it, or have known others, that have.  In other words have seen or known, first hand. This way the words are not forced.  If a writer has blocks and has to force themselves to work to finish their topic, I think they are in the wrong job, or should at least keep their day time work!

Writing should be pleasureable, addicting, unstoppable, flowing.  When words flow onto paper, like the sea flowing onto the shore, it is subconscious thoughts that the brain is releasing.  It should be possible to write until your eyes are closing. (Or does this just happen to me?) This word 'talent' to me, means the experienced spirit giving out of itself. (The same with natural singing, dancing and musicianship)

'Poetry' in the true sense seems to take the reader to another realm. Definitely not one from around this planet! It is kind of surreal!  Like the paintings, which look marvellous, but could be visualised differently by each person who gazed upon it.
Ah!  I have found the answer to my question!

Poets who write 'poetry' are surrealists!

Writers who write 'prose' are detailists! (As in abstract, or detailed drawings)

Well, we need new titles now.  I think I am a 'prosest,' not a 'poet'  Now, this word should be put in the dictionary, and credited to me!  You all have the proof! I thought it up first!!

Donni-Jay Author/Prosest/Oral Rambler. (Pontificating Writer in other words!) 

 

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Reviewed by SOULFUL SHEE G. Pulsing In Passionate Purple PassionS 4/19/2005
Debbie *( I super Apoligize- I'm new at sharing my feelings here in AD- I will become a Member soon,I feel it) but.. I had to copy and paste this in, in regards to -Poet or Writer- by Donni- When YOu Debbie mentioned--->being frustrated about the way a poem could be/is written. I see it also as, When it's written too simple- as I have some of my poems written, cuz- it was the way I felt that day- I feel it can loose someones interest as they read it.. cuz- it wasn't elequently spoken- I hope I didn't step on toes here.. but, I felt strongly how you felt too in your article to D- *( which is below) I wonder is being detail-Oriented has anything to do with it- or someone reading a poem who is ADD- could find it boring and just need to read something more with depth... I Wonder- but, writing from the Heart is where it's at- and that can NoT be wrong. Is my feelings also. Debbie - Thanks for helping me -get my emotions pumping on writing styles! :) and Donn- Thanks! 4 the Topic at hand. YOu make some of us think HARD, and Thinking is Creativity. Sheee


Though, there are many great poets here at AD, and I do mean great, many, tend to go over my head. Though I enjoy the flow, the rhythm and beat of many of the poems, many times the meaning of the poem is beyond me and I find myself becoming frustrated while reading it. So much so that, reluctantly, I will discontinue reading the poem and move on. This is not to say the poetry isn't good, because I know it is, it's not to my taste. And that's what writing is all about. Everyone has their own tastes and styles of writing. I'm one of those annoying people who always look for the positive slant on everything and always try to find something good to say about anything (doesn't always happen, but I try). I don't believe in critiquing badly anyone's style of writing. They have put a lot of effort into it as well as a lot of themselves. This to me, means the most, that and the fact that they've chosen to share their work with us, is in itself an honor.
Debbie
Reviewed by Nordette Adams 12/5/2004
Poetry does indeed have a history, a definition, and guidelines that distinguish it from prose. The two words are frequently misused here at AuthorsDen. Sometimes writers who prefer rhyme come upon free and blank verse and call it prose when reviewing it because they miss all the other attributes of the piece that place it squarely in the poetry category. At other times people write pieces that have no rhythm, rhyme, literary devices, or flow, but they line it up in verse form and people applaud it as poetry. Well, it's not. Yes, poetry often makes us feel, but there are some excellent poets who simply make us think. It's not all about feelings. Nevertheless, since so many writers here write for fun, emotional, or socialization reasons and do not aspire to the writing profession, why argue about it? Life's too short. Those who want to hone their craft will figure it out, and those who are just having fun will continue to do as they please or feel.
Nordette
Reviewed by Debra Conklin 11/7/2004
In a way I agree with the point you were trying to get across. First, I don't call myself a poet or novelist or any of the other title people give themselves, I'm just a writer. I write b/c I love the written word and the feelings expressed through them. That said, when I first came to AD I began with reading and writng only poetry. I now, almost always write essays, articles and short stories. I'm finding I'm enjoying this as much if not more than writing poetry (though my first book, due out the beginning of next year) has quite a lot of poetry in it, the essays I was able to just expound my thoughts and feelings in.

Though, there are many great poets here at AD, and I do mean great, many, tend to go over my head. Though I enjoy the flow, the rhythm and beat of many of the poems, many times the meaning of the poem is beyond me and I find myself becoming frustrated while reading it. So much so that, reluctantly, I will discontinue reading the poem and move on. This is not to say the poetry isn't good, because I know it is, it's not to my taste. And that's what writing is all about. Everyone has their own tastes and styles of writing. I'm one of those annoying people who always look for the positive slant on everything and always try to find something good to say about anything (doesn't always happen, but I try). I don't believe in critiquing badly anyone's style of writing. They have put a lot of effort into it as well as a lot of themselves. This to me, means the most, that and the fact that they've chosen to share their work with us, is in itself an honor.
Debbie

Reviewed by Patricia Eichler 9/19/2004

All I know is that I write what I feel in my poetry, and there are so many different feelings. When I write a book, it shows the character having those many different feelings, while he or she is going through their life experiences, and each book is written around a certain theme which will be resolved in some way. I believe we can be both poets and writers. It's good to have questions and to ramble on at times. You can get it all out in the open and out of your system. Interesting write.

Love,
Patty
Reviewed by Tinka Boukes 9/19/2004
Hehehehehehe I am your witness you thought Up that word first lke I did with S*xicise....hahahahahah!!

I am with you 200% on your questions and what have yous in this 'arteuicle ' Donni-Jay Author/Prosest/Oral Rambler. (Pontificating Writer in other words!)

Love Tinka

Reviewed by Lisa Hilbers 9/19/2004
If it can't be felt..it's not poetry. Reguardless of the feeling it produces..that's strictly accounted to the individual reader.
Interesting thoughts you have penned here Donni...

Lisa
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