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Chatting With Spirit
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Copyright:  2006

Orb and Ghost Photos
Grey Wolf Publications

Alec and Debbie Summers visit haunted buildings, mostly in Sussex, looking for ghosts and visiting spirits. This book includes many of the conversations they have had with those spirits in pubs and churches in the South of England. Visit for more information on Alec and Debbie and to see their orb and ghost photos.

Needlemakers Café, Lewes, East Sussex


One day, we stopped at The Needlemakers to buy some craft supplies from The Daisy Chain and to have a cup of coffee.  We had no intention of ghost hunting here, but as soon as the coffees arrived, Debbie clairaudiently heard a man say, “you know that it is haunted here, don’t you?”

Surprised, Debbie replied, “well, no, actually I didn’t.”

“How do you fancy taking my photo?”

While Alec went out to the car to fetch the camera, the man waited patiently by Debbie’s side.  Unfortunately, when Alec returned, we discovered that the batteries were flat, as we had taken a lot of photos earlier that day.  We apologised to the man and promised to come back. 

He felt like a kind, loving person.  He told Debbie that he often visits The Needlemakers, as he was a manager at the factory that previously occupied this building during the 1820s-1840s.  He loved his job and his office was close to the café.  He took pride in looking after his workers.  He loves being in the spirit world and told her that it was “heaven” being there.

We returned about 2 weeks later with a fully charged camera.  The man came to Debbie almost immediately and he was full of fun and really looking forward to being photographed.  He started chatting to Debbie.  “It’s time to get my picture taken.  I’m looking forward to it.  I never had a chance to have it done in my day.  What a wonderful invention.  How do I look?”  He laughed.  “I am so enjoying this.”

We then discover that we haven’t put the memory card into the camera, so we only have the 12 picture internal memory.  The man laughs again as he watches us discover our mistake.  He is very amused by our antics.  “These things are so clever, but unfortunately they are operated by people!  Don’t you want to photograph me?” 

Debbie said, “I’m so glad that we are keeping you amused!”

“You certainly are, dear.”  Alec points the camera at Debbie and takes a picture.  “I hope you got my good side!” He said.

“You’re certainly good fun.”

“I know.  Life’s too short not to have fun and enjoy yourself.  I always did enjoy a good laugh.”

“Where are you?”

“Over here, in front of the toilet door.”

“Do you really want to be immortalised in front of a toilet?”

“Why not?”

Alec checks the photos on the camera screen but can’t find any phenomena.  He deletes what he has taken and starts again.

“You’re playing with us.”  Debbie tells him.

“Yes, I am.  I haven’t had this much fun in years!”

“Can’t you be serious for just a little while?  We want to have photographic proof of the afterlife to show everyone that you exist.  Don’t you want to help us?”

“Of course I do, but life is a challenge and you enjoy something more and have more pride in it if it doesn’t come too easily.”

Debbie then saw an orb shoot across the café counter, drop down at a right angle, and disappear.  Unfortunately, it was too quick for Alec to react and he tells her that he only has two pictures left.

“This is your last chance, we only have 2 photos left,” Debbie told the spirit.  Alec took the photos and when he checked them he found a faint orb on the penultimate one. Excerpt
Debbie could feel a pressure between her shoulder blades as if he is trying to push her away and there is a tightness in her throat, as he wants her to stop communicating with him.

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